Please post the feeds & BBAD here after midnight.

I am not sure about what times they will do everything today. It's a live show, but it's on an hour later than the Thursday night shows. Ususally on Thursdays athey are woken up @ 11:30am CST. Then around 12:45pm they get locked in HoH for around 90 minutes. After that the Hoh has to clear their shit out of HoH while the rest of the people eat, sleep, clean or primp. The feeds go to trivia at 4:30 for them to rehease the live show & then comes back on & off til the live show airs. Tonight they will be starting endurance Hoh on the show so we will be here posting until it's over. On Wed they will do the 2nd part which is usually some timed event.

Remind me again how this 3-part HOH goes. Every year I forget.

Isn't it endurance first. The two who don't win endurance compete for part two. Then the winner of part two competes against the endurance winner and whoever wins that is the HOH? And then they decide who to evict. Is that how it goes or am I forgetting something?

Yes, first part is usually endurance. I think 2nd part of HOH comp is usually 1/2 physical - 1/2 puzzle (like running & putting something together) and the 3rd part is usually questions like "Did Jeff say A) he's gonna punch Nat in the face or B ) He's going kick Nat's ass? Well, something like that. LOL. I'm thinking this is how it will go...I think that Kevin will win the 1st part of HOH. I think Nat will win the 2nd. I think Kevin will win the 3rd HOH comp and then pick Jordan go with him. That's the best case scenario - although not much of an alternative - to Michele staying. I don't think that Kevin will pick Michele unless BB can convince him to.

I'm not going to be on long, but against my better judgment I turn it on.

Looks like K is out on the balcony, laying down on the couch. Maybe Snatch is in the DR, I don't see her. Michele walked in the PR w/ Jordan. I heard J say she's going to be up all night. Jordan thought about making a Coke float (you don't need to be eating anymore honey! Get Nat out of the house NOW!) Mich said she's nervous about Julie asking her questions. Jordan said it's a toss-up. Mich said it all depends if it's Kevin's decision or it's Natalie's. I think Mich said I'm having ice cream. Fuck it. But then she says her stomach. Jordan can't believe that now it's Tuesday. She didn't realize how close it was. Jordan said if you leave and I stay, tell Jeff I said hey. Mich says like I wouldn't. Jordan said tell him I said I miss him and he's stupid. Mich laughs and said that's a nice message. Jordan said is there something you want me to tell him? Mich said tell him hey and something about he's a yo-yo. Jordan asks if she wants ice cream. Mich said she's really hungry for ice cream. Nat is laying down now next to Kevin and then Kevin goes into the HOH room. Mich said she's never had a Coke float. She's had a root beer float. Jordan asks if she talked to Kevin yet. I can't hear what Mich says. Mich says he wants to talk to you. Jordan said she was going to see if you talked to him and then she was going to. Nat goes into the HOH room. JOrdan realizes it's only 10:30 and it's going to be the longest freakin night EVER. Jordan says her Coke float is so good, offers a bite to Michele. Michele doesn't like Coke, it's too sweet. Jordan said she's going to take a sleeping pill to knock her out tonight.

Again, against my better judgment, I switch to the assholes. Kevin said she told Michele that Nat made it very clear that she wants Mich to go. Kevin said he told her that if she betrays Natalie, she loses a vote. If he betrays Jordan, Jordan said she wouldn't vote for him. Basically he says to Michele that if she can think of some way of keeping her w/o backstabbing Nat, then fine. He doesn't think she'll think of one and he wants to set that up as a reason to not keep her. Like oh well, you couldn't think of a way. Kevin then asks Nat should he keep her? Her eyes get wide and Nat said you'll lose a vote right now. Kevin said you'll know right away if I betrayed you. Then nonchalantly says so what if I do? Nat looks at him funny, like she wants to punch him. Nat said you SWORE on your life and your BF's life. Nat said you better not. I will stay up there forever (endurance). Kevin said how about this for betrayal - you drop FIRST. Nat said I'm not going to drop before Jordan! He says that way she'll think oh, I beat Nat, she's the stronger player and it'll put her guard down. She said she's NOT dropping before Jordan. Kevin tells her to stop tripping. If she sticks to the plan, he'll stick to the plan. I think the prod. told him scenarios brought up that maybe that Nat & Jordan might have a deal (they do) but both are getting really nervous although Kevin tells her nothing has changed. Plus, Jordan has been saying something that is getting Nat worried...I didn't catch it all. BB tells them you are not allowed to talk about production. Nat goes in to pee and Kevin starts to leave. She said, dude, stay in here. You're sleeping with me tonight. No joke. He laughs and then he leaves the room. Kevin and Nat are on the couch upstairs on the balcony. Nat and Kevin are whispering and looking around. Jordan comes into the kitchen, they ask her what she's eating. She said Nerds. She had a Coke float. (God, Jordan, stop EATING!!! Work off that nervous energy. I guess it's too late now though)

I'm going to bed though...I'm sure Jax will have a report of what's on BBAD and this will cover some of that.

I didn't think I would have that much to cover but I have a whole page of notes already & still a 1/2 hour to watch. But I wanted to start typing it up now so have the DVR paused. Here we go.

Kevin tells Michele that everyone is threatening him w/ their jury vote if he doesn't do what they want. He said Snatch said he will turn the jury against him if he keeps Michele. He said JM threatened w/ her & Jefro's votes if he votes her out. Kevin tells her she has to convince Snatch that she should stay in order for him to keep her. [That should tell Michele she doesn't have a chance in hell to stay]

Michele & JM alone in their room. JM said if Michele leaves tell Jefro he, she misses him & he's stupid. They go to the kitchen for some ice cream [JM has eaten like non-stop for the 1st 2 hours of BBAD] JM asked Michele if she's talked to Kevin.

Feed goes upstairs to HoH where Snatch said she just heard JM ask that but then they were whispering so she couldn't hear the response. She wants to know his talk w/ Michele.

Kevin said they should do a segment on how paranoid Snatch is. Kevin said Michele told him she's never backstabbed him & that her word for F2 is good. He said he told Michele that Snatch has made it very clear who she wants to go [Michele] & if he betrays her he loses her vote. He said how he told her to come up w/ some way that it isn't betraying Snatch & it's just a way so it looks like he did consider keeping her. He asked Snatch if he should keep Michele?

Snatch asked if his boy likes his nuts or not cuz she will cut them off if he does. She said she swore on everything to him that they are F2. she said she will win tomorrow & Kevin can't beat her.

Kevin told her to drop 1st.

Snatch said she won't drop before JM & doesn't want to drop to him either. She said they've been together since Day 1 & F2 since Lydia left. They are guaranteed F2 so why would they mess it up? She siad if he does she will punch someone.

Kevin said the DR told him that Snatch & JM may have something together.

Snatch said she left a bad message for Michele & she is taking the blood for this one.

Kevin said Michele is not changing his mind & he is just looking for an out so it looks like he tried to keep Michele.

Snatch said if he votes out Michele then "Operation Delete Middle Row" is a success.

Feed goes back to the girls. Michele said she will cry when she watches that PoV & that she had them all lined up correctly & then messed up one putting it up.

Back to HoH. Kevin wonders what he should tell "the bitch". [he always refers to any girl as "the bitch"]

Snatch said he should tell her [they are talking about JM now cuz Michele was called to DR so Kevin wants to go talk to her while she's alone] that he will make a deal to keep her if she throws HoH. [I love these deals they try to make that they will give something 1st so the other person totally doesn't have to live up to their end] She says say that he knows Snatch will win endurance so JM has to throw the 2nd part to him & then he will take JM to the end.

Kevin said she would be a dumb bitch if she believed that. He said he has to do it last minute cuz the DR will cockblock & ask her if she really thinks Kevin would do that.

snatch said tell JM to throw all of HoH.

Kevin said they are keeping the bitch anyway so maybe this way she will throw it & make it easier.

Snatch said it is still 2 against 1 & they are winning it anyway but it would make it easier.

Kevin said he can't talk to her tonight cuz the bitch needs to not think about it.

Snatch said he could say that he has a guaranteed F2 deal w/ Michele so she has to lay down in all the comps & when she's proven that then he will take her to F2. Snatch brags that JM can't beat her in any kind of endurance competition [she already has beated you in one idiot] & she says Kevin can't either. [I don't know why Kevin can tolerate this asshole] Snatch said JM can't beat them.

Kevin said he can say he & Snatch have a deal that Snatch is throwing Phase 1.

Snatch siad she doesn't like that. She wants him to tell JM to throw all 3. She said if someone told her to swear to that she would but wouldn't do it.

Kevin said then JM will think she has a F2 w/ botch so may not try to win. he said he doesn't know how the bitch operates. he knows she likes to be told what to do.

Snatch said she only listens to Jefro cuz that's her boy. She said if JM made it to the 3rd round of HoH they will tell her they are F2 & it's done so maybe she will throw it.

Kevin said they don't give a fuck about Michele so don't need to say anything to her. He says he is going down to talk to JM. Snatch said she will give him a minute & then come down. Then she decides she will play cards in the kitchen [so she can try to listen]

Kevin finds JM in the PR. he asked if she has a F2 deal w/ Snatch. JM lies & says no. [I don't know if that is a good move on hr part to lie about it when Kevin knows she does. So will this make him think JM would take Snatch so he will keep Michele?] Jm said they have just said they will look out for each other. [Kevin can hardly get any words in here cuz as usual, JM just spews out everything] JM said she knows KevSnatch will take each othr to F2 & whoever stays is just the 3rd wheel. She swears she doesn't want revenge for Jefro. She says she is not good at questions.

Kevin says it's not true cuz she tied for the last HoH on ?s.

JM said she didn't even have one on there for PoV. She thinks she will be out at 3. She knows he says things to cover his back.

They gt nervous so JM goes to GR & Kevin follows a few seconds later.

JM said she woke Snatch up that one morning & told her she was by herself & assured her they would go to F2 togethr. She said the DR asks who would you pick & she now thinks Snatch has an advantage. She thinks they all have 1 juror's vote for sure [she - Jefro/ Kevin - Lydiot/ Snatch - Jessssiey] but thinks she would lose to Snatch & thinks it's 50/ 50 w/ Kevin cuz she pissed Russell off & he said he would vote for whoever got Jefro out but he never liked Kevin. She said she needs the money so will take the 2nd place money. She thinks Michele would win. & now that Snatch is engaged, no one likes her before when Jevhie & CHima were there but now they have seen her softer side & thinks she will get the votes.

Kevin said the bitch has gotta go. He said everything he said to JM in the hot tub was 100% true. He doesn't know why Michele says he offered a F2 deal to her cuz he never offered it [lie]. he said he only told her that Snatch has got to go & Michele said no. [I Lol at this. Imagine that. Michele has learned her lesson & that there is no point talking game w/ these people cuz they just twist her words.] Kevin said now that he has won PoV Michele will come to him & say he needs someone that can knock Snatch out. why would he believe that when she told him no before?

JM said Michele told her that Kevin offered her a F2 deal.

Kevin said it was just to see what the bitch would say. He siad Snatch threatened him w/ her jury vote & he knows snatch could win HoH. His insides are telling him she made a F2 deal w/ JM cuz it would be smart. Kevin says he will hang in there in endurance cuz he doesn't want to do 2 rounds of questions. He said JM has proven to do well at questions & true or false.

JM said she is awesome at before or after or the steps.

Kevin said he would choose JM cuz why would he choose Snatch?

JM said Snatch knows if she gets to F2 she will win.

Kevin said why would Snatch give up the chance to play PoV if she had his back? She would see her BF in 10 days.

Now I am caught up to the last 1/2 hour

Kevin said she did that to throw off michele & to show the jury so if she betrays Kevin she can say she never had a deal w/ him.

Michele is out of DR & walks past the GR

JM wonders if there is more to PB cuz they have asked her stuff. Kevin doesn't think so. JM said she thinsk snatch knows & isn't telling them.

JM said Snatch says one thing & does another.

Kevin said it was supposd to be 3 against 1 in PoV but Snatch opted out.

JM doesn't think she has given anyone a reason not to trust her. She claims she doesn't talk to snatch much. She feels better talking to him cuz she was nervous. She really thinks she would be out.

Kevin said they will know by this Thursday who are the F2.
Kevin said if he had a deal w/ Nat why would he approach her? He would be like fuck you bitch, you're going home. he said they only had a F5 deal & that's 100% true. The bitch didn't look out for me & made it 2 against 1. That was the deciding factor for me that I can't do this.

Jm said she wants to make it to F2 so bad cuz Rat told her, everyone thought she couldn't do it. She wants to be here.

Kevin said he is hanging in there & won't drop. JM said her too. She siad they ask you scenarios who you will... BB tells her not allowed to talk about DR sessions.

JM said you're so funny & I am so nice. JM said $50,000 is a lot to me. I swear to God there is no revenge for Jefro. It was a good move. Smart move. Anyone would have done it. he's not my boyfriend or husband or someone I am connected to. No hard feelings at all I promise. I knew after w/ the speech. Mine was nice. I knew he wanted to be here over me. He was going to kiss me & dip me but would only do it if I left. So it showed me money was more important to him than me.

Kevin said you can tell anyone this convo cuz it doesn't matter. he will die in that competition. He is only worried about the questions. If I keep Michele or you, I have to rely on you to win it.

JM said in one of them Michele was one of the 1st ones out & JM lasted longer. JM said she was ahead at 1st w/ the last ?s. You go w/ your gut.

Kevin said between you & Michele, I would rely on you for the questions regardless who it is. It would be nice if you or michele would win the ?s & I can focus on any endurance. he feels very confident in that. Just know who I choose, it's irreversable & you can tell snatch this whole convo. Once I commit to it then you should know that I got your back & I have, if I win round 1 then you don't have to worry cuz you are totally safe.

JM said she would just have to win Round 2.

Kevin said if he wins Round 3, she's safe. If Snatch wins then you just say did you know that me & Kevin made F2 deal in GR so pick me. So me talking to you like this...

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Jm said tell her she's safe so she won't try. JM said she likes her now but was never friends w/ her before. She thinks Michele would beat Snatch cuz she is strategic. JM siad it would be the dumbest move if anyone picked Snatch for F2.

Kevin said his decisiuon has nothing to do w/ friendship. Even if she told him she was hating him in DR. All that matters is if you're word is good & could I beat you.

JM thinks she's been honest about everything. She feels there is hope now after talking to him.

Kevin said the reason he is so safe to Snatch now is cuz if she wins HoH he has to be close to her.

JM said if you keep me I will try my hardest & hopefully, that's up to you.

Kevin said he needs her to try hard on the questions.

JM said can you study them? she said she missed the Ronnie space suit one cuz she wasn't close to him & figured he would do something stupid like that [& he did & that was a bad one from BB]. JM said she missed another one cuz a plane flew over so she guessed & got that wrong. she got the Chima one wrong cuz she didn't think she would apologize [& that's another one BB got wrong. CP did NOT apologize to Russell. She apologized for the comment to middle easterners, not to Russell. More semantics from BB]

Kevin said he has to treat endurance as life of death cuz doesn't want to go to the questions.

Jm thanked him for talking to her & she feels better & hopes he believes her.

Kevin said let me know tomorrow if you visualize F2 w/ me.

JM sia dhe will give him the answer tomorrow. She thinks things are meant to be. Michele is the most hated & Snatch has the most friends & you & me are in the middle. we were calm & not backstabbed anyone.

Kevin said Michele backstabbed everyone in the game [that is another thing that cracks me up. Michele hasn't backstabbed ONE single person. I don't know how she constantly gets that label]

Jm said her word is good & she is being honest. She will try her hardest. She said Snatch said she is good at questions but she could be trying to psyche you out.

Kevin said JM has beaten her.

JM said if it is her & Kevin left he can look at her & she will drop & she can go for questions. she said she gets really frazzled on timed events [which round 2 always is] & she always does bad on that.

Kevin is preparing himself for 8 hours cuz snatch is going to hang in there. I need to win.

Jm said she feels better if she does leave it isn't cuz of Jefro.

Kevin said I told you I thought of you separate. Jefro had his order & that's why I told you don't listen to Jefro.

JM thought Michele would beat Snatch so you would keep her. I never approached you cuz I figure you were together & then it would get back & be a whole drama.

Kevin said it doesn't matter. She asked if Michele is talking to me & all i say is at this point in game offers fr F2 are made.

JM said he has to do what is best for him but Michele will promise everything. she goes to whoever has the power.

Kevin said it was 3 against 1 for PoV so he knows she would have cut me so she didn't want to make a deal w/ him before PoV.

JM is called to DR & she said we will talk later. Kevin said tomorrow.

Snatch is still in kitchen w/ the cards. Kevin said it is time to go to bed. Snatch said she's not tired. Snatch tells him Mihcele is coming so they talk about cards.

snatch said how many times do I got to bitch you. Kevin said bitch please. Snatch said excuse me, do you want to get a slap upside your head?

Snatch asked if he's done? Kevin said yeah. [his talk w/ JM]

Kevin has a headache. Snatch siad take a couple Advil. Kevin said it is weird they started construction early & ended early. Snatch said they could be doing other stuff. The building part is easy.

They go to HoH.

Kevin said biznatch does not trust me. BB calls Snatch to DR.

So now it is just kevin alone in HoH & they didn't get to rehash his talk w/ JM yet & there is only 5min left of BBAD.

& that's that. It's 8:36am CST & all 4 feeds on sleeping HGs in dark rooms.

I have read what happened after BBAD & here is a quick recrap. snatch threatened Kevin over & over & over again that he BETTER evict Michele OR ELSE. He kept saying that the DR is trying to get him to keep Michele & so there was constant fish tryng to cover that. Snatch kept bragging that NO ONE can beat her an endurance & that NO ONE can beat her at anything & if he fucks her she will fuck him by picking Michele or voting for her over him & guarantees she will get Jeschiey to vote the same. she told him she wanted him to go wake Michele up right now & tell that bitch she is leaving. Kevin refused saying he wants to fuck w/ the bitches so will tell them tomorrow. Snatch DEMANDED he sleep in HoH w/ her to cockblock & Kevin refused saying he doesn't sleep w/ others.

Kevin kept reassuring her that he is voting Michele out & by the end of it they pinky swore that Michele was out & they are F2.

I don't know why Kevin lets this girl dictate to him his every move. If she is this freaked out about Michele staying, that would be my clue to keep Michele. & he knows JM is lying to him when she says she & Snatch have never agreed w/ a F2. I do think though Kevin will boot Michele cuz he is a giant pussy & JM is the easier person to beat at the competitions. I would personally rather keep Michele cuz you know she hates Snatch & is a better competitor but whatever. I can understand him being afraid of Snatch in the JH cuz he knows firsthand how she can control people's minds so why not the votes?

Sorry to butt in again, but this is ssoooo frustrating. If Kevin wants to win the money, ideally he will be F2 and Snatch will be in the jury house, anyway. Unless he's just playing for second place. He will never beat her. Not because she is liked or anything, but because he rode her coattails all the way there. Why is he afraid of what she will do? They may have let the pit bull run them in the house, but I would bet they will not let her tell them what to do NOW. PLUS, sNATch will likely take Jordy to the finals, anyway, where I think Michele would keep her word. C'mon Kevin, you had the balls to evict Jeff, c'mon defy sNATch. I wonder if Kevin and Nat BOTH really want to take Jordan with them for the win?

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I really think Kevin is afraid of what Snatch will do to the jury house since she has controlled them all on this side. But he should realize that the person who goes to #3 doesn't spend hardly any time w/ the jury. They only go to the JH to sit outside for the questions & do their little round table. They are in a hotel room & they all go to the hotel after Thurs. So she doesn't have access to really work the jury. & so what if she gets her & Jeschiey to vote against him. It's only 2 out of 7. & my husband has a good point. He says he would boot JM & tell Snatch that she has shown she can't be trusted cuz of PB & since she was so desperate to keep JM he knows she has something w/ her so he was taking away her other option & they are in this together. If Snatch is SO sure she can't be beat at anything, what difference does it make if Michele is #4 or 3? So he should just say he levelled the playing field & now they both have to get Michele out.

That is fucking brilliant!! Really, that is the perfect move for him. Natalie I want F2 with you and want to guarantee you take me and not Jordan. She would threaten to take Michele over him though, but I know she wouldn't. She could easily win over Jordan OR Kevin, Michele might give her a run for her money.

He was wanting an excuse to give to Natalie for keeping M without betraying N. That would work. It's so stupid, anyway. She nominated HIM. He had to save himself with the veto; she gave her chance to play away. So then he gets to vote, but it has to be HER choice? Jeez

In yesterday's thread two thing were mentioned that confuse me.....
1. Something about a plane?????
2. Violation of the rules for using a calendar (the chess board)?

I know that Snatch & Kev used the board as a make shift calendar, if this was a violation, why didn't BB stop it weeks ago?

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Hey Gret. Yeah KevSnatch made a calendar using Playdoh & it is a violation & no idea why they haven't done anything about it. BB never obeys their own rules. Yes, Michele is using her birth control pills as a calendar but it isn't the same thing. She is just looking at the dates to remind her of things. Not outright making a calendar like KevSnatch have done. BB always cherry picks which rules they will let the Hgs use & abuse.

As for a plane, during the Hoh that Snatch won, a plane went over & JM & Michele have both said they couldn't hear Julie so they just guessed & were both wrong on that question & Snatch got it right. They should have asked Julie to repeat, but were too nervous too. & any one who has the feeds can tell you, planes fly over that yard constantly & we can't hear what the HGs are saying, so I totally buy this. It's not saying it was rigged for Snatch to win, but I do believe JM when she says she didn't hear Julie.

& at 11:06am Michele got up & is now in the WC. I will assume she is going back to bed when she gets out.

Jax, you scenario is brilliant, Kevin is anything but brilliant. He does not have the cahones to make a big move like this.

I think that Kevin is going to lose to whoever because he did not make big moves. I would think, if I was him, that I would keep Michelle because she hates both Kevin and Natalie equally.

We shall see. I am going to watch tonight with bated but unsurprised breath.

I can't take credit. It was my husband's idea. LoL. he doesn't even watch or like the show. Poor guy is just stuck listening to me talk about it for 3 months so he knows what's going on. I think even if Kevin tried it, it won't work on Snatch. she is a Veruca Salt & she wants her Oompah Loompah now Daddee. It wouldn't matter if Kevin was making the best move for him. she wants it her way & only that'll do pig. & we all know what a pussy Kevin is. Hell, he wouldn't take Lydiot off the block to please Chima. I do not see him going against Snatch & I do see reasons why getting rid of Michele is a good move for him. & it's the easiest path & Kevin likes to go the easy way.

So that means endurance tonight is going to be a total bust. Or maybe not. If JM is smart & knows she shouldn't throw it, we know she outlasted both of these idiots on the last one. But that was also many pounds ago when JM was in better shape & was working out more often. I am still hoping for bugs so Snatch can bow out right away. yeah, no one can beat her at anything my ass. Have her lay in worms & cockroaches. Kevin would freak out about it too. I would just love for JM to get the final round cuz I think she has a good shot at the finish what the HG said thing. 2nd round I don't think she will do well at. A timed event. So JM has to win endurance & then she has a really good shot at winning this & she can pick her poison.

It's 11:25am & they are all still sleeping.