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Posted by: Jax on Jul 25, 2005 - 12:58 PM
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Ivette refuses to believe Eric is the POS that he is. Maybe cuz she is one herself.
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By Grunge
10:10pm PST (12:10am CST)
Kaysar brings his hookah pipe outside.
Ivette and James are in the gold bedroom.
I: There's only so far that I'm willing to go for 5 thousand, and you're willing to go very far for 5 hundred. There's certain things that I'm not willing to do.
J: Like what?
I: For example, it hurts me to see you hanging around Janelle. What happened between you and Cappy, I can't change. Do I hate that Kaysar and Janelle is laughing about all of this? Absolutely. Do I feel betrayed by a lot of people? Absolutely. Am I willing to make friends with people to stay in this game? Absolutely not. Do you understand what I'm saying?
J: Yea, that I understand.
I: Am I willing to start to change my friendships? Absolutely not.
J: Ivette, I don't want to change my friendships. But what I found out was that Eric, Maggie, and Beau were not my friends.
I: Ok, so then, there's a lot of things that were said to me, and I never second guessed you. If anything, I've trusted you. It was told to me that in the first week, you started rumours about me and Beau being friends.
J: You know what? It was started by Cappy and that's a lie.
I: So why did Kaysar tell me that you told him?
J: Because he didn't want to have a target on his back.
I: Kaysar told you that everybody said that they wanted you out.
J: Ivette, what you are doing is looking at people who have some sort of vindiction and you're taking everything they say as the truth.
I: So are you.
J: How was the vote going to go, if it was me and Maggie on the block?
I: I gave you my word and told you, don't make me tell you, and I gave you my word. And Beau would have voted with me.
J: No, Beau won't have. I was already told that Beau was going to throw the Veto contest and that's why I had to ask Janelle. Did you see how pissed off Beau was when I asked Janelle.
I: I was pissed and I had no idea what was going on.
J: Do you know why? The only for me to get out of this and to keep you safe, cause you were the prize they wanted. Kaysar had his word to Cappy. He decided to break that when I went to him and told him, why are you keeping his word to a person who lied to every person in here to their face.
I: I don't see that. I can see the problem you have with him and I'm not going to sit here and defend either side, but I don't think I've been lied to. I don't personally think a lot of people have been lied to in this house.
J: Ask any other person. He told fourteen different people here, he wants to go to the final four with him.
I: That's not the way I was told by him.
J: He told me in front the entire house, I'm his boy and he had my back. And the next week, he told the entire house, he wanted me to go home.
I: What if Sarah had been up there?
J: I was willing to let her go home.
I: That's different, cause you feel she's not a good enough player to play this game.
J: It's not that I feel she's not a good enough player, but I think people in this environment act best independantly. What Kaysar got is exactly what he wanted. All he wanted to do is to expose Eric for the liar that he is, and he got it done, cause Eric overreacted. He wasn't even the target, you were the target cause of Janelle and Kaysar's feelings to you.
I: I don't know if they are telling the truth.
J: Nobody knows.
I: But you're in the room and you're laughing with them and saying, I'm not going to tell you about plan B or something.
J: Plan B was bullsh*t. There wasn't a plan B.
Ivette goes into the story about her brother Frankie who's in jail. Rachel comes and tells them that Sarah is taking bong hits and James says that she's a big girl but he'll be right out.
10:30pm PST (12:30am CST)
James and Ivette are in the gold bedroom.
James says that the people who are trying to make him like the bad person, is stupidity. He says that Maggie complained about being on the block but he knew she was playing him.
James says that he knew he was going out of the house by a vote of 9 to 2. He says that the same tactic Eric did, was the same thing Michael did. He said that Maggie wouldn't even hug Sarah after the veto competition, and she wouldn't even tell him good morning the next day.
Ivette says that when James was running around saying stuff, she didn't know if it was true. She says that she thought it was a set up and thought her and Beau were going to be put up.
James has to go over what happened with Kaysar plan to help Ivette understand it. Ivette says that Eric just told her that he would take her as far as he could and that was all. James has to remind her of Eric lying to him of watching his back.
James says that when you tell thirteen people you won't put them up if they won't put you up, even when everyone knew Michael was going up, is a lie.
Ivette says that the veto competition was set up by Big Brother to let him win.
Ivette defends Eric that James didn't expose him as a liar.
Ivette says that Kaysar is the bigger liar cause he's willing to put up Eric who he made a promise to. James says that that doesn't matter to him, cause he would have been going home.
James tells Ivette that he doesn't care what she thinks but to just go by his actions, and if she does go on the block after the veto, than he's the biggest motherf**ker there is.
10:40pm PST (12:40am CST)
James and Ivette in the gold bedroom.
Ivette says that James told everyone that Beau and Ivette are a pair. James yells at her that if she believes that, then she can just get out of the room. He tells her that she doesn't want to listen to the truth.
James says that he wouldn't have acted like a little kid and swipe the hat off someone's head, like Eric did to him. James says that they are out there making him look like the bad one.
James says that if Maggie wants to have a vindetta agains him, Kaysar, Janelle, or Sarah, he doesn't care, because that's next week, but he had to save himself for this week. Ivette is speechless.
James says that everytime he goes outside, Eric and his crew quits talking. Ivette says that Eric and the rest of them haven't been talking about the game all day.
10:55pm PST (12:55 CST)
April and James are in the gold bedroom.
James asks April what his reaction was when he was nominated. She says that she knew he was upset with Kaysar.
James says that everyone in the house wanted him to go, and that's why he went to Janelle to keep him in the game.
April tells James that she's on Eric's side. She says that she didn't like him from the get go cause she heard that he's said bad things about her.
April says that James is playing without morals and that she will play with morals, and if that gets her kicked out, than so be it. James says, so what? He's the one who stood up for her and Jennifer when they exagrated bullsh*t about Michael.
April says that she doesn't need the money and he does, and will do anything he needs to do to win it, but she won't. James tells her that if she doesn't want to be there, there's a door. April replies that if he thinks she's going to walk out of there that easy, she doesn't think so. James says, if you win HOH next week, I expect to be put up. April replies, expect the unexpected.
11:15pm PST (1:15am CST)
April, Jennifer, Sarah, Janelle and James are in the dining room.
April and James continues to argue in front of the others. James says that April saying he doesn't play with morals, then he didn't want to listen anymore to here.
April says that James wearing Eric's hat during the veto competition knowing that he was going to screw them over, was immoral. James tells her, you're nuts. He knew if he lost the veto competition, he was going home.
Sarah says that Eric told her about Kaysar thinking he had his trust but that he would drop him as soon as he was done using him.
Jennifer leaves.
April begins to cry and says that it upsets her that people were friends but now they aren't.
April says that they were all pissed off cause Eric ruined the couples secret, and Sarah replies that she was thrilled that happened.
James says that how could you tell me about morals, when Eric stabbed four people in the back. James leaves.
Sarah says that on day two, James told Eric that he thought Maggie was a thinker and he didn't trust her, and Eric said that he cut him off then. James said, the exact quote was I said, she's a thinker, she's quiet, she's evil. And when I said that, he said he was done with me. Sarah says, from day two, you know how many days that is that he was using James?
Sarah goes over the deal everyone made with Eric that they wouldn't put him up.
April says that James has been going around telling people she's insecure. James replies that they are all insecure.
James apoligizes to April for the things that he has said to her. James says that he doesn't hate anyone but he lost respect for the way Eric and Maggie are acting.
11:30pm PST (1:30am CST)
James, Rachel, Janelle, and Sarah are in the HOH room. James goes over what him and Ivette were talking about. Then he tells them about April telling him he wasn't playing with morals because he wore Eric's hat.
Kaysar comes up and says that Eric massaging April and is yelling in the yard that this is a game and if you can't handle it, get the f**k out of here.
12:00am PST (2:00am CST)
James, Kaysar, and Janelle are in the HOH room. They are talking about religion.
Ivette, Eric, Jennifer, and Maggie are out at the hammock.
Eric says that he's leaving all his fire clothes to Maggie so that she can wear them to remind everyone of him. Maggie says that she will wear them everyday so that everyone will see it.
12:20am PST (2:20am CST)
James, Janelle, and Kaysar are in the HOH room.
They talk about how childish Maggie and Eric are acting. James tells them about Maggie talking about Sarah, and pulling away a chair from her so that she couldn't sit next to her. They are talking about the people online are seeing all the sh*t.
Ja: They are taking it out on Sarah because she's more vulernable than me.
K: Cause they don't have the guts to say anything to you.
Ja: Yea, they don't say sh*t to me. Because it happened to them. Now their group is being broken up, it's bad strategy on Eric's part. He didn't keep his word to anyone, and expected everyone to keep their word to him.
K: He's upset, because we embarassed him in front of...
Sarah enters.
James says that he'll apoligize to April again. Sarah tells him no, cause if he acts too nice to her, she'll think he's just doing that.
Janelle asks what April said about the sexual assualt thing with Michael? James said he told her that he did that veto sh*t because Michael was a huge threat in here on the exagrations from her and Jennifer, and April says, I don't believe that I ever exagrated.
12:25am PST (2:25am CST)
April and Ivette talking outside.
April says that they are looking to take them out one by one. She says that they can't win HOH five weeks in a row. She says that Sarah is weaker than sh*t. Ivette says, so is Janelle, she's easy to manipulate.
Ivette says that the veto chess game was perfect for them. April says that James said Kaysar played chess to read him, and Janelle was the same way. She says that they think they are stronger than them. Ivette says that is the way we felt last week.
12:40am PST (2:40am CST)
Eric says that they think he's leading them around by their noses and that they need to step up and stop screwing around. April says that she's just going to enjoy things. Eric says to enjoy each other, but don't include them cause they are the ones screwing you up.
A: I sat down with James, and everything I said was wrong in his world.
E: Of course.
A: So at the end of it, I was saying I was hoping this game could be played with, not necessarily with morals, but heart, and he goes, well then, you need to walk out that door right now. I looked at him and stood chest to chest with him and said, you think I'm going to f**king give up that easily. I don't f**king think so. He looked at me, like, April, I want to get our story straight because if you're HOH, I don't want you to think personal. You got to think strategy. I looked at him and said, expect the unexpected. He goes straight to Sarah and Janelle and I said, I'm right here. I go, I don't think you have morals, and he said, give me an example. And I told him about the hat and of course, he had something to come back with, and I don't remember exactly what it was cause I wasn't listening to him. And then Sarah tried chiming in.
J: He wouldn't let her.
A: The funny thing is, that anything that ever came out of Sarah's mouth came from James.
E: Of course, she's like his parrot.
B: Exactly, baaa, polly want a cracker, baaa.
(Everyone starts laughing)
M: Oh my gawd, that's f**king hillarious.
A: The only thing I'm happy about, is that he's scared now.
E: Oh yea he is. You can see it.
B: He knows that everyone is f**king against him now. He has six or five people that are against him.
A: His whole point is, he kept saying, April, I just want you to understand, I'm sorry for what I said to you, blah, blah, blah, everyone's insecure. I'm like, I'm not insecure.
B: He said to me, are you taking it personal that I didn't pick you to play for me? I'm like, obviously I f**king did dumbass when you didn't pick me. It was a slap to my face in front of everybody. He was like, well you didn't...I'm like, whatever, get out of my face.
A: He's trying to make himself look like Mr. Wizard.
M: If I was that f**king smart, would I tell you about it.
E: Why do you think he's trying to explain himself to you? they are trying to justify to themselves what they did.
A: I kept saying, I'm not made at you for winning the power of veto. I told Sarah, you're boyfriend treats people like sh*t. If you had to bank on it, if we don't win HOH, who's going up?
E: Probably Maggie.
A: Maggie, I want to have faith that if you're coming back, you're coming back with your claws out.
M: You even have to ask me?
J: Would if they f**king rig it to have James win HOH, and it's another f**king chess game.
E: Something tells me that this week is your week. You guys are f**king due.
A: They can't win for the next five weeks.
E: Kaysar prides himself on the fact that he was thinking three steps ahead.
A: I know.
E: Which is fine, but the only wrench in that is, you don't know what's coming down the pike.
M: You can plan in your head what you like to do.
E: When it comes down to it, you have to win.
B: Stop f**king around.
M: You're the one who goes out first all the time.
A: If it comes down to me and Maggie, I'm going to throw it.
M: Just make sure it's you, me and no one else.
12:50am PST (2:50am CST)
April says that he were trying to say that I was mad at them for using the power of veto and I just wanted to say, I don't care, I just don't like the son of a b!tch. Eric says that they shouldn't defend him to them cause people want to tell the truth and when you roll up on them, and this is why, this is Eric, Eric, Eric, they are trying to justify what they did, when you don't hear me saying sh*t. Maggie says that she's feels that James is a piece of sh*t.
Eric says that he couldn't eat pizza and cake with them cause he's not a hypocrite. He says that he deceived people but that's part of the game, but when he gave his word, he kept it. Everyone agrees.
Eric says that as soon as Maggie went up, his game was over, and people came up to him and I told people to vote James out cause he's a stronger player. Maggie says that he's playing to people's side saying he would have sold Sarah out, but I don't think he would have.
1:00am PST (3:00am CST)
Eric and Maggie on the hammock.
M: Hearing Ivette saying that she don't trust them, I'm worried about that. Because if all I have is those five people, I've got to run with it. I'm not going to doubt them.
E: You can't.
M: Numerically, I can't. So hearing Ivette doubt April, what am I supposed to do?
E: You have to convince Ivette that they're in.
M: But she may know that even though those people are dark side, and may get her to the end, she may want to ride it. She won't be a bad friend to me.
E: Unless, you get Ivette to do your dirty work for you.
M: No way.
E: Then what are you looking to do then.
M: I don't know.
E: You're just going to have to ride it cause you're out on an island by yourself.
M: Them knowing that I'm by myself, will leave me in this game longer, but I'll just be miserable.
E: Right, just run with it.
M: Do you want me to play the he said, she said, game. Cause I'm going to need too. Ivette is not going to trust me if I don't give her anything, but no one's going to give me anything. At this point, I'm marked as untrustworthy.
E: Everyone else, except these people.
M: I can't turn my back on them.
E: You're options are limited. I'm so glad we didn't get grouped in with what they did. And they are having a tough time with this.
M: Maybe, maybe not. I don't care.
E: I think they are, cause he's starting to lose it. Anyone who has to explain himself as much as he has.
Maggie and Eric get teary-eyed with each other.
1:10am PST (3:10am CST)
Eric and Maggie on the hammock.
Eric says that he had plenty of enemies, and it was people who had trouble with other people having the reins, James, Kaysar, and Janelle. Maggie says that he came in a leader and he'll leave a leader.
Maggie tells Eric to tell her boyfriend that she loves him and she starts to cry. They are getting philosophical with each other.
1:30am PST (3:30am CST)
James, Sarah, Janelle, Howie, and Kaysar in the HOH room.
They talk with each other about what they could call their alliance. They decide to call themselves the Soveriegn Six.(ed-I think they are called the Outcasts by us out here but their's is catchy too.)
They throw their fists in the air and shout, Soveriegn Six. They start laughing and Kaysar says, oh gawd, we're so corny.
They are talking about James and Sarah's relationship. Big Brother tells Janelle not to obstruct her microphone, and Howie says, Sorry Big Brother, her boobies got in the way.
1:55am PST (3:55am CST)
Ivette, Eric, Maggie, and Rachel are in bed in the main bedroom.
Janelle, James, and Sarah are in the bathroom.
Beau, Jennifer, and April are at the outside table.
Beau and April say that they will continue to talk to the other people. Beau says that he won't talk to James though. April says that she'll talk to them and bring back information to them.
April says that it's an even playing field now, but Kaysar is a smart guy and he won't forget what James did to him.
Beau wants to make a pact with the six of them. April says that Jennifer told her that all they know is that they are safe this week.
April says that Kaysar is all about strategy. Beau says that he could still go up. April says that if Kaysar doesn't put Eric up, then he would be screwed, and he knows it.
April and Beau enter the bathroom and say they should go see what Kaysar is doing.
2:00am PST (4:00am CST)
Beau, April, and Jennifer run up to the HOH room. Beau opens the door without knocking and he jumps on the bed and April and Jennifer follow him into the room.
Kaysar, Howie, James, and Sarah are in the HOH room.
2:30am PST (4:30am CST)
Kaysar, April, Jennifer, Beau, Howie, James, and Sarah are in the HOH room.
James tells them that after he won the veto and he was hanging it next to his picture, Howie comes up to him and says, so, who you going to use the veto on?
They seem to be talking to each other at the same time.
Sarah asks April why Maggie is so mad at her? April says that she doesn't know. James says that he feels like he was backstabbed by Eric, so she would be mad at Maggie and Eric if they won the veto too.
April tells Sarah not to take anything personal. Sarah says that it's a game and she understands why Maggie and Eric is upset at her.
Kaysar tells everyone that everyone says it's just a game and not to take it personal, but they do take it personal. James says that when he was put up, he was staring at Howie and Janelle and wanted to eat there kids, but he settled down and started to think logically on what he could do to get farther in the game.
James says that the veto ceremony was hard last week, even though they knew Michael was going to go home.
Kaysar says that they didn't expect him to make the nominees he did, but came up to him with an offer to put up this person and he could by a couple more weeks, but decided to do something different to create some waves, and that's what he did. He tells them to enjoy the game and each other, but they can't do that if they are all sh*tfaced and not wanting to look each other in the eyes.
Kaysar says that people came to him and said he's not assimulating in the group, but he doesn't know that perfect joke or he can't do the song and dance to impress anybody, but he sat in the corner to get to know Beau, or April, or Sarah and that's what he was doing.
Kaysar tells them his actions have been consistant, and that his actions today are consistant with yesterday.
April comments that she wished Michael was like Kaysar. Kaysar tells her that Michael really is a good guy, but just couldn't handle the pressure.
April says that she figured Sarah and James were a couple the first day and she commented about it in the diary room.
Howie is caressing Jennifer's arm on the bed and baby talking to her.
James and Kaysar tease Sarah about mispelling her words in the food challenge. Sarah teases Kaysar about not being about to get food with a 75 percent chance.
Janelle enters. Howie melodically says, Hi Janey.
2:50am PST (4:50am CST)
April, Beau, James, Sarah, Jennifer, Howie, Kaysar, and Janelle are in the HOH room.
April asks Janelle if she wants to have sex with Michael when she gets out of the house. Janelle blushes and says, gawd, you guys.
Howie is caressing Jennifer's arm while kissing Beau's neck. Beau says that he's going to bed and Beau kisses Howie on the lips, and they both say, ewww.
April, Beau, James, Sarah, and Jennifer leave the HOH room to go to bed.
Janelle says that James feels pretty confident that he's going to win the HOH. Kaysar says that he's just joking.
K: You have to really understand his dry humour.
J: Yea, but he wasn't humouring us saying he interogates people for a living and that he picks out liars. This is not a safe person to really have around, is it?
K: If I didn't think I could deal with him, I wouldn't have him around.
J: Yea, but he said he's ready to sell out his own girlfriend.
K: You want me to explain that to you?
J: Yea.
K: The reason he's saying that is because he knows when the time comes, all we have to do is pick him off and his girlfriend is a sitting duck or the other way around. He'll be emotional. You can tell he's emotional about her. He wants to make it seem like no big deal. It's like, I'm not a target because if you take her off, I'll keep going. He's trying to show that he's strong, and that he's not going to get emotional about it. It's all an act.
J: Are you sure?
K: I'm positive about it.
J: So he's trying to intimidate us?
K: He's trying to boast that he's a smart guy, which he is. The reason he's saying these things about his girlfriend, is because now he feels exposed. So when the time comes, people will think he's a target. But if people thinks he's ruthless and doesn't give a damn, they won't come after him, it really doesn't matter.
J: I don't know if I trust him, if he's like that.
K: Here's the thing. He doesn't think about these things. He's able to read people and that's very important. But he's not able to figure out sort of the other things.
J: He said he was ready to backstab anyone to get the money. I asked him, you aren't going to backstab us, and he said no, I told you I wouldn't.
K: He considers himself a realist, a very logical thinker. It is not realistic for him to backstab us, cause I've earned the trust because of what I've done with the group, and he was brought back from the dead for a reason. He knows that the second he betrays the entire group, his days are limited. By me giving him the option for that fair playing field, that it's any person's game in the final six, he'd be foolish not to take that offer. That's why he's contained.
J: So, when he says that I'm just going to get rid of my girlfriend at the end, it's all a lie, a set up.
K: Yes, he's just trying to protect himself. Listen, I know he's a strong player and I knew he could be a liability, because of this strategy from the beginning.
J: His strategy is ruthless.
K: It is ruthless, but I couldn't pick up anyone else. Everyone else is too weak to fit in this puzzle.
H: She is his weakness.
J: The only weakness is that he tells everyone he's heartless.
K: It's just a front.
J: So, he does have feeling?
K: He does. He does have feelings but he tries to overcompensate.
3:00am PST (5:00am CST)
Kaysar, Janelle, and Howie are in the HOH room.
Kaysar says that James wants to have his glory and he's going to have to let him get it. He says everyone needs it to feel successful. He tells Janelle that he can see her winning something and her smiling, and he would feel good too cause someone on his team won.
Kaysar says that he took care of things without telling them, but he didn't want them to get emotional and having to repeat things to them, so he just dealt with it.
Kaysar says that when if they get to the final six, it's going to be fun.
3:20am PST (5:20am CST)
Kaysar, Howie, and Janelle are in the HOH room.
They talk about their group being strong in the competitions. Janelle says that they have to hope Maggie doesn't get the next HOH. She wonders who would Maggie put up and Kaysar says that she would probably put James and him up.
Janelle says that if Ivette wins HOH, she'll put her up. Howie says that she's still playing with hatred. Kaysar says that the other group plays with their emotions.
Howie says that Ivette came to him and asked, do you think Eric is a man of his word? She's convinced that he is. I told her I have to see the tapes first before I give you an answer. Kaysar laughs and says, I love your answers, they are so insulting, but they don't understand. Janelle and Howie laugh.
3:30am PST (5:30am CST)
Kaysar, Howie, and Janelle in the HOH room.
Kaysar says that Howie made up some lyrics to a Guns and Roses song. Howie recites the lyrics.
Take me to the Big Brother city,
Where the grass is fake,
And you can't get titty,
Please don't evict me out.
They start laughing.
They talk about how Eric's clique developed and Janelle and Kaysar say that they made a conscience decision not to join them. Howie said he was still trying to figure the house out and realized he was on the outside too.
3:50am PST (5:50am CST)
Howie says that starting tonite, he's got to get off that 4 oclock in the morning schedule.
Janelle says that she hasn't gone number 2 for four or five days.
Janelle tell them that Maggie asked if she could have her robe when she leaves, and Janelle tells her, no, that it cost $130, and Maggie replied, that just shows what kind of person you are.
Janelle says she's going to bed. Howie goes to take a shower. Kaysar remains in the HOH room.
All the other houseguests are in bed sleeping.
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